The third video from Project Veritas is out, following the first two exposing Obamacare navigators in north Texas allegedly encouraging people to lie on health care applications.
The latest video appears to show an employee of the non-profit Enroll America wheeling and dealing with a Democratic political action committee -- a big no-no.
The same actor from the first two videos, Dallas native Lawrence Jones, is in the third. This time, he's posing a representative of a Democratic political action committee
He's meeting in Austin with Christopher Tarango, the communications director for Enroll America.
The undercover video was shot Nov. 8 at an Austin coffee shop.
Jones offers to buy a list, at an unspecified price, of people's personal information obtained by Enroll America during events to sign people up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act.
The snag: Enroll America is a non-profit and tax-exempt, and therefore, cannot be involved in partisan politics.
Tarango seems reluctant and says he can't access the list; then, he suggests running it by a higher up.
"I know him well enough that, to feel like if we had a few beers, this would not be the craziest conversation that he's ever heard," says Tarango.
Tarango also admits he's very involved.
"I'm the kind of person that has my hand in all the different pies," he says.
As it turns out, Tarango helped get President Obama elected.
"I'm going Enroll America right now, but I'm also, I shouldn't be saying this, but I'm also helping out with HD 50, so that's as partisan as it gets," he says. "There's a lot of talent that got sucked into Organizing for Action. I mean, there's a lot of talent that got sucked into Enroll America, but we are all Obama people."
"In the law, there are barriers, strict barriers, about the sharing of information about the sharing of resources," said SMU political science professor Matthew Wilson. "The difficulty is, how bright a line can you draw between the non-partisan activities and the specifically political activities when it's exactly the same people doing both?"
Jones says that he didn't ask Tarango for the list – he asked if he could purchase the list.
"I don't think an honest person in either the Democratic or Republican Party can claim that these types of abuses happen only on the other side," said Wilson.
But Jones hopes viewers consider this: "The bigger question is the American people should be asking is, how long have they been getting away with this?" he says.
An Enroll America spokesperson released the following statement to FOX 4 Thursday:
"...Enroll America is a non-profit, non-partisan organization focused on helping Americans enroll in affordable health insurance, and we absolutely don't work with any partisan political organizations, campaigns, or candidates. What's more, we bar the use of our resources for partisan activity, and have extensive safeguards on all of our data to make sure it is used for education and enrollment purposes. We're fully compliant with all relevant laws and regulations, and there is absolutely no credible evidence to suggest otherwise. Though the video from Project Veritas does not show any violations of our non-profit status, even the suggestion by any of our staff that such activity could occur is inappropriate. We're reviewing those statements, and will take appropriate action."
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